The Kanto Regional Revamp Project

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  1. Phoenixsong

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    Ninetales and arcanine; of the two ninetales would be better since Dierdre has o-arcanine, but honestly something like that is probably fine. Also dat 560 BST for a 3rd/4th badge, idk. (...are there going to be oracle stones available to players in Kanto somehow? Not that this hypothetical gym leader couldn't have come by one some other way, but I'm wondering.)
     
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    Haas The Master of the Night Administrator

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    I say we might have the oracle be the ace but have the levels lowers to counter the high BST
     
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    I think the hypothetical gym leader's team would look like this.

    [20] :gastly: [Levitate]
    [22] :anubeon: [Cursed Body]
    [23] :oracleninetales: [Flash Fire] @ :oraclestone:

    A four level increase over Starmie for the ace, as there are two areas between Cerulean and Lavender. Anubeon and Oracle Ninetales together could be a challenge, but Anubeon is frail physically and doesn't have very many good moves by that level.

    For Gym TM, Shadow Ball would probably be too powerful, so I'd say Soul Shroud.
     
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    Haas The Master of the Night Administrator

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    Maybe a level lower overall just because oracle ninetales has a bigger BST
     
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    As someone who knows what we're doing with Oracles in the near future, I'm against having one this early in the region. Haas's first team was solid enough to work without resorting to Oracles.
     
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    Yeah, I'm vetoing this. No Oracles this early in a region.
     
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    Haas The Master of the Night Administrator

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    So would an underleveled haunter be out of the question?
     
  8. Roxas

    Roxas Prince of the Stars Administrator

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    Something I'd like to bring up because it's kind of bothering me is...

    Do we really need to put a ghost gym here? Can we just not have a ghost gym? The way Kanto and Johto are setup in-game are that they don't have any repeating gym types (mainly because they're like one super league). So, can we put a different gym elsewhere?
     
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    I'd be for a Fairy gym, personally.

    [??] :female: :jigglypuff: ??/?? [Cute Charm]

    [??] :male: :sylveon: ??/?? [Cute Charm]

    [??] :female: :clefable: ??/?? [Magic Guard]

    ??
     
  10. Phoenixsong

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    If we went with dark (which is repeated in Johto's E4, but then again you also have both Koga and Janine, Clair and Lance, etc.) then this would still be a good place for it, although we also have even fewer dark-types in Kanto than ghost (p. sure it's just umbreon unles I'm forgetting some other evolution OI would make available). Other than that our only options are normal and fairy, which probably ought to go somewhere else, yes. Counting sylveon we do have enough distinct fairies in Kanto to make an okay mid-region gym team out of that, but normal would still be cool (...and I think was the original plan before fairy became a thing?), so either works.

    EDIT: Partial ninja, although I'd also wait to worry about the team makeup until we decide where it's actually going to go. We might still stick it in Saffron in Sabrina's place, after all.
     
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    Clefable would be OP for this early. So Wigglytuff for ace.

    Also

    :tmfairy: [Glitter Bomb] for the gym TM.

    Normal is actually a Johto gym (Whitney).
     
  12. Phoenixsong

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    You're right, forgot Whitney. That said, you missed my edit: should this go in Lavender Town/at this point, or should it just go back to Saffron? I think the only reason Lavender was being proposed was because a ghost gym would fit there. We could have more room for a slightly better team if we put the fairy gym in Saffron. Could even say Sabrina handed it off to one of her juniors who was also interested in fairies because of mr. mime or something. (Not necessarily as an ace, but yeah.)
     
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    ohh
    I'm good with it going into Saffron.
     
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    The problem with that is then we have 5 gyms right in a row. My reason to put it in lavender town was because it would split the gym cities into 4 in a row, then saffron, then 4 more in a row. It isn't a big deal but there is my two cents. We could also argue lavender town is a less spooky town than it was 15 years ago.
     
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    A possible way to solve the way-too-many-gyms-in-a-row issue, if we play it right: there are a bunch of towns and the like that were added in the second run through Kanto in the anime, which featured contests and Battle Frontier facilities. Trying to figure out where they are relative to the gym cities now, to see if a few of them can be interspersed to keep the latter half of Kanto from being gym after gym after gym, and generally to add some length to what is currently a very short region.

    (Regarding Whitney, she could just as easily become a Fairy-focused gym leader: her original ace was Miltank, but her gym always had a Clefairy design, and the revamped version focused even more on the cutesy pink stuff that seems to define canon Fairy-types. It's just a thought, since it would leave the possibility for a Normal gym in Kanto which wouldn't have to scrape the bottom of the barrel to claw together a roster.)
     
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    I just really dislike the idea of Lavendar having a gym. 5 gym towns back to back be damned. I just...really don't want a gym there.
     
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    I'm open to Ari's idea of adding Anime exclusive stuff.

    Or better yet, Movie Exclusive Stuff like the Tree of Life. There is a place where a sidequest would be awesome.

    And if anyone cares, I would say these would be the best things to add in since we know their general location:

    http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Metallica_Island
    http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Sable_City
    http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Sunny_Town
    http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Stone_Town (Eevee sidequest anyone?)
    http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Sayda_Island
     
  18. Phoenixsong

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    Honestly I don't think it matters if Kanto is short compared to other regions. That said, if we can actually think of something interesting to do with each anime-only inclusion as opposed to just stuffing them in there for filler's sake, I won't complain.
     
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    Edited my earlier post to include areas that I think could be useful. Didn't put the Tree of Life or whatever it is called because it is near Pewter City and I couldn't really find a way to incorporate it into our region.
     
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    I'd say no to changing Whitney's type to Fairy. I get that her gym has a slight Clefairy theme... but Whitney and Miltank are inseparable. You can't have one without the other.

    In regards to adding an anime-exclusive town, I'd be down with it. Kanto has a low amount of cities compared to other regions, so adding one more town somewhere could ease the region up. It'd just be a question of which town.
     

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