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| Rachel Covaks | Jun 15 2009, 05:31 AM Post #1 |
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Yeah, a strange title, I know. The purpose of this topic is for people that have been through tough times to talk about their issues, and with other people that have had a rough life. As for myself, I'd be lying if I said I had it as hard as others, I was never thrown out of my house like Dahlia, I have not been a victim of persecution, and I have a loving family, there's not much more I could ask for. I used to be happy, almost naive really, but in recent years I've become more and more depressed. It really started nearly 8 years ago on 9/11, I didn't lose any family in the attacks, no one I knew had any family that was connected, but that day something was revealed to me, but it would take years for me to understand what it was. The true nature of the world was revealed to me on that day, but it wasn't clear. When I was 14, I had a revelation, imersing myself into studies of Marxism, and studying the world around me, I came to that horrible conclusion that the world was corrupt. This time there was no pushing it away, in secret I became a student of Marxism, over the next few years I molded the Manifesto to create a political belief that can be truely the opposite of what I was opposing. A system that is founded on peace, love, and freedom, a new brand of Socialism. When I entered High School, I was still single, having pushed the outside world away. Then I met Scott, which led to my first real relationship, I put aside my ideas to be a normal teenager for the first time. Then, I made a mistake that would change my life, I had sex with Scott, it wasn't rape, I wan't drugged or drunk, and we only did it once, but it was enough. I later found out that I was Pregnant with my daughter Katie. I told Scott, and he not only dumped me, but I caught him making out with the captain of the cheerleading squad (I've had a strong dislike of cheerleaders ever since). I never had another boyfriend of course, my best friend Cynthia comforted me through the ordeal, and one thing led to the other. I normally don't talk openly about it, but I'm a lesbian and proud of it, though my parents don't know about it just yet. My parents are also divorced, and one summer I went to stay with my dad, and Cynthia moved away without even telling me. I don't even know if she still loves me, I may never know. Well, thats my story. |
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| + Sin | Jun 15 2009, 01:47 PM Post #2 |
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First of all, of course the world is corrupt. It always has been, and always will be. Such is the result of adding power to man. No amount of Marxism, Democracy, heck, even Vegetarianism will fix it. I just say "that's life", then I smile and turn around. As for the second part... I don't know what to say. That Scott is a terrible excuse for a human being, and puts men to shame. I'm not trying to change or say anything about your sexuality, but there are good guys out there. I know too many girls that get stuck with a guy like Scott, or even worse, and then lose faith in men, or even humankind all together. I haven't really talked with you for a while, just over a month I think, but when I last talked with you, you seemed okay. You've taken all the crap that the world has thrown your way, and managed to still stand tall. Keep standing tall, Ruin. As for Cynthia, call around. Google her. I'm sure you can track her down somehow. I can't think of a reason why she would just up and leave you like that. Why, if I was your girlfriend, I wouldn't just do that (I'm a guy btw). You seem like a good girl. Maybe she wanted to be just friends, and couldn't break it to you. If that is the reason she left without telling you, and you do find her, just think about this: is it better to be friends, or risk it going back to romantic. My last girlfriend broke up with me because I told her I loved her. We were best friends before we hooked up, and now she won't speak to me (there was no sex involved, so that's not the reason). I've told her that I don't want to be romantic with her any more, however much of a lie that is. I've now decided it's better to be friends than risk it with romance, and I'm still working hard to get us back to that. I text her, usually not being texted back. I call her, and she doesn't pick up. If I see her out and about, she talks a little. I just want to go back to normal and have my best friend back, and I'm not giving up. What I'm saying is, go find Cynthia, and even if you can't be girlfriends any more, try to be friends. Perhaps even forget your past relationship if you need to. Way hard to do, I know, but having regular friendship is better than having nothing. |
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| Rachel Covaks | Jun 15 2009, 05:39 PM Post #3 |
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Well, yeah, but it took me awhile to figure it out, and I'm still sorting through things. But I believe that if the world is going the way it is, revolution is inevitable. The only question is, will the revoultion be the right one? And yeah, I guess I'll keep that in mind, thanks Sin. |
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| Winterbane | Jun 15 2009, 07:50 PM Post #4 |
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There's no such thing as a right or even a wrong revolution. Revolution is a way of passing control from one power to another, there is no right or wrong. I am more of the belief that on the path we are on as a global community, we will eventually break down into espionage and assassinations again, and from there every country will become cutthroat about self-interest. From there, international anarchy will resume as it was in the 1800s, and we will self-exterminate at least 50% of our race. Of course, this is at least one hundred years in the future, once internationally United Nations is recognized as being a puppet of the United States. The problem in the equation is humanity. We are ALL corrupt. No exceptions. Regardless of who's holding the proverbial reigns, our race is cutthroat and self-destructive and nothing will change that in the end. Which is why we should enjoy every moment of our lives; because eventually, the game is over. If we're gonna be here, we might as well have fun. Edited by Winterbane, Jun 15 2009, 07:51 PM.
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| + ImmunityBow | Jun 15 2009, 09:23 PM Post #5 |
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The problem in the equation might be humanity, but the missing part to the equation is also humanity. Yes, humans are all corrupt to an extent, but almost every person I know, no matter how much I dislike them, has shown me that they can be wonderful people from time to time. I don't think it's a coincidence. Call me naive, but humanity will always keep on fixing problems and being confronted with new ones, and that's what makes life exciting. Funnily enough, today, I just wrote an essay on suffering in relation to the meaning of life for my final English exam. |
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| Rachel Covaks | Jun 16 2009, 01:01 AM Post #6 |
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That, is my goal, a revolution that will result in a single government, but not one founded on war, but on peace. The world has changed radically within the last century, and as a species, humanity must work towards peace. |
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| Winterbane | Jun 16 2009, 10:20 AM Post #7 |
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Meanae, that is impossible. In order to unify the world under one government, the entire population of the earth would have to oppose conflict. However, all religious groups on some level or another oppose all other religious groups. Thus, conflict is embedded in our society. As much as I'd like it to happen, religion isn't going away - people are too caught up in it. Revolution or no revolution, the thing that makes humans prone to direct violence, religion, isn't going anywhere. Now, in order to unify under one government, every nation would need to first revoke freedom of religion. Can you see countries where the church and state are one entity willingly revoking the ability to practice religion? I can't, and I'm studying Political Science and History in university. So my opinion is not an unfounded one. What would be idealistically nice is what you are proposing. However, as all realists know, humanity will not work towards peace. That was the goal of United Nations. United Nations was formed to ensure a balance of power and secure international law - a presiding body in international affairs. However, recently we've seen in the open how useless United Nations is. UN said no to the war in Iraq. How did the USA, an "equal" in United Nations, react? Did it anyway. How did United Nations respond? By doing nothing. There will always be one dominant body that via brute force will take control of any "government". One defining power that does what is best for it, not what is best for anyone else. The US does that to the entire world right now, and before the US it was Britain. Before Britain, the Romans. No matter what system is established on the premise of peace, one power will seize it for personal gain. Any attempt to unify the world would be repressing many cultures and forcing one dominant one, turning it into an aggressive empire. Personally, I would rather live in the world of today, where we are close to world peace aside from periodic wars that are realistically trivial to the world as a whole, then in a world where one repressive power forces its own ideals and values on the entire population of our planet. Edited by Winterbane, Jun 16 2009, 10:29 AM.
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| + Sin | Jun 16 2009, 01:38 PM Post #8 |
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Some of the most true and most inspiring words I have heard in a long, long time. IB just wrote a briefer history of time (Take that, Hawking). I'm not sure how much this relates, but my dad just got me to re-cover a whole driveway/forest trail in my back yard with mulch. It inspired me to think of something to write in his Father's Day card. "Thanks for the big pile of mulch. It makes me think of all the other big piles of steaming brown stuff (mulch steams before it's laid flat, btw @ OI readers) I'll have to deal with in life. And as you've said many times before, whatever won't kill you just makes you stronger." I'll expand upon that. Moving that pile of mulch (five feet wide by twenty feet long, piled four feet high, slightly moist) is one heck of a job to say the least. I confront it, it takes all day, developing calluses and blisters on my hands, but I learn from it and become stronger by it. Now, I'm a bigger man after doing this again and again roughly once per month for the past three years, but I didn't change all at once. There wasn't a revolution in me, just a gradual change. If we, as humans, deal with these big steaming piles of brown stuff, we change, but we don't become disciplined overnight, nor do we get strong backs after one day of work. The best and safest way for a mass change is gradual. Break the mold of a revolution. Erase the violence and bloodshed, and instead tackle the obstacle with steady, hard work. Whatever won't kill us will just make us stronger. And last I checked, Marx said that the only working change was bloody revolution. Keyword: bloody. I'd rather avoid that. |
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| Rachel Covaks | Jun 17 2009, 01:04 AM Post #9 |
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Marx was wrong, I do not take the words of Marx to that extreme, but instead I study the method of Revolution. Violence only leads to more violence, death to more death, and violent revolution leads to tyranny. |
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| Inevitable | Jun 17 2009, 10:55 AM Post #10 |
ALL GLORY UNTO HE
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The UN isn't a "puppet" of the United Nations. You point out that they did nothing to stop the USA's war in Iraq, but frankly, they couldn't do anything. The USA is the most powerful nation in the world. It spends more on its military than the next 10 big spenders put together. Sadly, this causes some (including the last administration) to think they can go around telling the world what to do. Part of me almost hopes they overstep the line. This has incredible cost. The Iraq war has destroyed the USA's previous standing in international affairs. You probably know of Team America? That was based on what the rest of the world thought of the USA. I feel several things need to happen before this changes: 1. The administration needs to change. This one's already been done. 2. The Military budget should be massively cut. Even if it was halfed the USA would still be the top spender in the world. Arguments about "security" are meaningless because the USA would still be the best. 3. No more wars. An interesting point about American Heroics. The modern day doomsday weapon is the Nuke. Take the whole N. Korea thing for example. Also, Russia was once demonised by the west because they had them. HOWEVER, only one nation has ever used a nuclear warhead. It wasn't the Soviet Union. It was the good old US of A. What's more is it was fired at civilian settlements. Yet America is free from this demonisation other nations are afflicted with? Enough of my anti-americanism. IN OTHER RATHER MORE SURREAL NEWS. Global nations and elimination of corruption could be eliminated. There are several ways, but all of them are very science fiction: 1. Psychic powers. Telepathy, or more specifically, empathy eliminates conflict. 2. Hive minds. When there is no individuality there is not conflict. 3. Genetic Engineering. Tailored humans lacking in warlike attributes. 4. Peace drugs. Drugs designed to suppress warlike attributes. I suppose 3 may come along one day, but that's unlikely too. Conclusion: We're all doomed. If the USA doesn't get us, someone else will. |
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| + Sin | Jun 17 2009, 11:32 AM Post #11 |
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Excuse me if I'm wrong, but... I think marijuana was invented a long time ago... |
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| Riaaki | Jun 17 2009, 02:53 PM Post #12 |
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This may sound stupid and naive but war is necessary. War is the world's way of controlling the population and I am sorry but world peace is just not concievably possible no matter how badly anyone wants it. Humans are violent by nature it is part of our genetic makeup and even the most pacifistic person will turn violent if the right need clicks. I bet you any good parent, pacifist or not, would not stand by and let someone hurt their kid. I'd murder with a gleeful smile anyone who dared lay a hand on my daughter and I hate and despise war but i see it is necessary. Without war we would be like China resorting to population control and how does that make us any better? China does still have that two baby law right? I am a little out of whack with world whatnots but last I checked two was the limit so what happens if you accidentally get to three? Without population control we would be so crowded what would we do? I mean if you can have world peace why not end disease? What is disease, it is another necessity, sad but true. All the big bad in life has purpose maybe we don't see it but it is lurking there. The sheer amount you would have to overcome to have world peace...man can you picture that? Look at all the differences religion, race, sex, not to mention about a thousand or so others, heck i wonder what hitler did with non jewish people who did not have blonde hair and blue eyes? If you ask me it is an impossible dream but hey if that floats your boat dream it. The world is changed by the single first action tumbling into a roaring chain of change. Personally, I prefer to practice tolerance instead of peace. There are reasons to fight, reasons to kill even they should be used but not liberally. Killing for the sake of killing is wrong and if you go for the idea of peace how far do you take it? I mean does it apply only to people or does it extend beyond that even? If it is wrong to kill another human for any reason is it wrong to kill an animal, or even a plant after all for all we know we could be helping to eradicate a species that someday may achieve more than what they are. Maybe it is just me...and i can see why my stance that war is necessary may be a little odd given i am from a native american and jewish background (probably even have an african american in that tree somewhere after all some tribes freely mingled with them) and no i didn't mean hanging in the tree although i am sure someone probably thought i meant that. *sigh* see proof enough we are a violent species by nature we just come in varying degrees of violence. Anyway that's my two cents be it right or wrong. |
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| Winterbane | Jun 17 2009, 03:07 PM Post #13 |
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Exactly. Conflict is a part of what makes us human. Without it, we lose that. Best example I can offer of why one world government cannot exist: Step 1: World government is formed by Cultures A, B, C, D, and E - each equally responsible. Step 2: 30 or 40 years later, World government is backed by the dominant military presence of Culture C. Step 3: Culture C begins to force its own cultural values on A, B, D, and E - because with the dominant force, it cannot be opposed effectively. Step 4: All people in Culture A, B, D, and E are forced to live by the rules and values of Culture C - losing all trace of their own heritage and what makes them a distinct culture. Yes, this is a radical assumption. Meanae proposed a world founded on peace, but the truth is, you cannot un-invent any piece of technology. In a world without WoMD, it'd be only a matter of time before someone, be it a leading group or a rebellious group seeking their individuality, would build a weapon of mass destruction and seize control for personal gain. We cannot defeat human nature without defeating what makes us human - emotions. I would rather live in a world that is full of hate that can feel the opposite than give up emotions entirely in the name of peace. Being a compliant zombie scares me, I cherish my individuality. Peace would come at the cost of that individuality if it ever happened at all. In a world without conflict, there would be no passion. No aspiration to do better than another. We would all be compliant zombies. You cannot simply eliminate the negative aspects of humanity without getting rid of the positive. Inevitable is right with the second part there - we will never, ever, ever achieve world peace without giving up our individuality and our ability to think critically. |
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| Skarzynsky | Jun 17 2009, 08:46 PM Post #14 |
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I recall something from school about utopia (can't remember if it was a book, paper, movie, etc.) but it showed this perfect society absolutely everything you dreamed of and then it had this person figure out what the cost of it was and it stuck in my mind because there was a small boy huddled in dark room or hole or something in rags who had to take all the suffering of the world just so everyone else could have utopia even it showed you could only displace all the bad not vanquish it completely. I dunno maybe someone else remembers this better it was ages ago lol. |
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| Rachel Covaks | Jun 18 2009, 02:43 AM Post #15 |
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The naturre of modern warfare has changed, it is no longer about ideologies, war has become a system of control, and a method of spreading that control. To quote a video game, "The age of deterance has become the age of control." America believes that it is within its moral rights to enforce its will on the rest of the world. What we are looking at is nothing short of the rise of Imperialism, and it will continue to grow. The people must wake up to the fact that we are losing out freedoms, and unite against the oppressors. Not in a violent revolution, but under the banner of peace and equality. Not of submission to oppression, but of rebellion. Once the American people realise the harsh truth, then we shall be free, Truth is Salvation. |
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| Czar | Jun 19 2009, 07:25 PM Post #16 |
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I want to reply to Sin's initial post because I found this to be a very awesome thing to think about. You said your girlfriend broke up with you because you said you loved her. Well, my friend, I can firmly tell you that indeed the same thing happened to me. She was a Sophmore in High School and I was a Freshmen, it was the beginning of summer when we started going out. She had for a long time been involved with my cousin, though they never even hugged, but they liked each other. When I came along she really liked me so I decided to ask her out. she was my first High School girlfriend so I already had very high hopes of a long relationship. It started with just holding hands and walking around, we hugged once in a while, and then I actually asked her out. We were happy for a month or so, but then I asked her if she wanted me to kiss her. She said yes so a few nights later, I walked her to her door and I tried to kiss her. She backed away for some reason, I was afraid that it was because she felt that I did not love her. Well, I've always known the difference between love, lust, and like. I knew I loved her, or rather at the time I had a ridiculous amount of feeling for her and was myself confused about it. I told her I loved her and was sorry and hugged her good bye. The I walked to my house. I left the next day to go to Mackinac Island for a week. when I returned she left the same day for a summer camp. The day she arrived back, I got a message over myspace...in it she said she felt that we were just good friends and should just be good friends, nothing more. I was pretty much devastated. This feeling, I had never had before for a girl, and it was crushed in an instant and over the internet as well. Well, I sunk into depression, we never talked, but every day I looked down my street and saw her house and felt something still. We remained this way for five months...an agonizingly long amount of time. Then I met a friend of hers who I liked a bit, and I started hanging out with her. However, I did not want to go out really because I still had feelings for the first girl. This led to the second girl having her feelings hurt. While trying to make the second girl feel better, I said something she mistook and then I angered the first girl. She called me and said she hated me...another devastating blow. Part way through this year, my Sophmore year and her Junior year, we began to talk again. I said I was afraid of being hurt again and she was afraid that it might not work out. Now here is the major difference in what happened to you (Sin) and me. I started hanging out with her again and soon we were hanging out every day. I called her one day to pick her up at work and when I did pick her up, she said that her boss had referred to me as her boyfriend. I felt odd and asked what she thought and she said she already considered me her boyfriend. Later that week we went to the movies and I asked her out again. We have been going out for three months and we still hang out everyday (except for this past week as she has been out of town for church mission trip). I am still very happy. We have learned to settle everything by talking. So, I thought it would be cool to share with you what happened as it started out the same way but ended much different. Also, I may be posting more often here. |
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| DarthSenorQueso | Jun 21 2009, 03:10 PM Post #17 |
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I'm pretty young compared to a bunch you people who post here. I'm 15 While most of you are highschool grads or close to I just completed Freshman year, and like all my school life since 5 years ago it was the most diifacult thing of the year. I'm not ready to tell my whole sob story yet, i'll save that for another post. But I can say this, As long as there is one person to be there and say they know how you feel,it makes you feel a bit better. Though if they are just saying that to make you feel better you can tell and it makes you feel worse. I'm not saying that anything these guys did is right, but calling them names or holding grudges is no way to live. It makes you feel worse and they won't learn if everyone hates them. Live and let learn. The best thing to do is to get yourself away from them and hope they become a better person someday and never, ever find out. Sure you could blame them for eveything too, but you won't learn that way either. You have to accept that it was their fualt and your fualt. Make sure that you learn to avoid those types of things. |
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| Rachel Covaks | Jun 21 2009, 03:18 PM Post #18 |
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Well, yeah, I guess your right, I'm interested to hear what happened. |
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| empoleongirl | Jan 2 2010, 02:20 PM Post #19 |
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I really hate my parents. You want to know why? It's because they do so many things they know ticks me off, and, although they say they're "sorry" they keep doing it. Like my mom, when she keep interrupting me, and she's sometimes says she's sorry, but she never stops. Or when I always tell them one thing, like the fact that our computer is crap, they say it isn't, and I end up being right. This happens, what, every day, but no, they still don't believwe me! Oh, trust me, I'm not saying that my life is worse than other people's lives, believe me. But it could be a heck of a lot better. |
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| SilentSentinel | Jan 2 2010, 04:07 PM Post #20 |
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Interesting topic, as far as the older posts go. I happen to live in the U.S., but am not neccessarily proud of it. We are a nation that holds less than 15% of the worlds population, yet uses more than 85% of the worlds resources. We said in our declaration of independence that all men were created equal, yet we employed the institution of slavery for nearly 100 years. And not roman style POW slavery where the slaves had rights. Ours was called chattel slavery, where the slave was not a person but a piece of property, and object to be used and thrown away as desired. It is said that anyone can be president if they try, but the campaigning and advertising neccessary to have a chance at being elected costs hundreds of millions of dollars, meaning that only the rich career politicians have a chance. We have stood upon a pillar of hipocrasy for almost as long as we have existed. But we cannot change. It is far too late for change now. Our two party legislative system can no longer function correctly due to the inability of our lawmakers to compromise on anything. It is not too outlandish to say that we are a nation of moderates ruled by extremeists. If you support the legalization of pot, then you must also be pro choice and anti guns. To quote John Stewart, our leaders come in two forms: "Jesus says retarded gays must be put to death" or "Man on pumpkin sex is an inalieable right and should be taught to children." At the same time, however, I believe that no system will work perfectly due to the greed inside people. Capitalism falls victim to corporations who bribe lawmakers for self intrest, which is a big reason why America is in a large recession currently. Everywhere you look, CEOs apoligize for taking large bonuses while the middle-class employees are fired and forced to lose everything they have worked for. The CEOs do not return the bonuses, but merely defend themselves with endless legal red tape. Socialism is just more of the same, where instead of corprate heads, its the government leaders who build lavish palaces on the backs of the emaciated masses. Even a peace inspired government such as the one R-Dorthy describes would eventually fail. If the world were to unify based on peace and freedom, it would eventually be the death of millions because of overpopulation. As ugly as it is, war is a population control device, among others such as murder, abortion, genocide, and natural disasters. Peace and reproduction raise the population. The current rate of world population growth is about 2%, meaning the population double every 35 years. If this continues, we will exceed the estimated global carrying capacity within one hundred years. We will not have enough food and water for everyone, which means that millions will starve to death. We can avert this with population controllers like birth control and abortion, but if we do not choose soon, nature will likely choose for us, meaning famine or natural disasters. I suppose I'm being hipocritical because I'm not offering a solution. Most likely, their isn't one, because you have to limit personal freedoms if you want to stop population growth. Hopefully I'll win the lottery or invent something really good so I can go live on an island somewhere, away from all this crap. |
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| Winterbane | Jan 3 2010, 03:14 PM Post #21 |
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ragingprimeape makes a good point, although necroposting is generally shunned. The world cannot be changed now; it's too far gone. At any rate, why would it be? CEOs, Politicians, and arms dealers are too powerful for any change to be made. Throughout history, revolutions have occurred when the existing system was not only failing, but was weakened by incompetent rulers. Last I checked, the so-called incompetent ruler (Bush) was puppetry conducted by his evil vice president, so the real administration wasn't that weak. We are as close to world peace as we will ever come without sacrificing individuality, which is the sad reality. Global revolution is a nice idea, but will never, ever be achievable. And if it is ever done, we'll bring about our own demise by overpopulation. Damned if we do, damned if we don't. Personally, I'd rather maintain my current lifestyle and individuality than become an automaton while waiting for humanity to exterminate itself in a stupid fashion. |
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| SilentSentinel | Jan 3 2010, 04:47 PM Post #22 |
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My thoughts exactly. I am sorry about le necropost, but I also feel that my 5 paragraph essay there slightly redeems it. |
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| + ImmunityBow | Jan 3 2010, 05:33 PM Post #23 |
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Damned if we do, damned if we don't? I find that this is a misrepresentation. There are those who live happy successful lives regardless of the situation they're in. It's all about perspective. CEOs taking large bonuses? How many times have I played a game and exploited an unforeseen tactic? Ragnarok Online sweet spots, Stick RPG stock investment saving trick, Super Smash Brothers Melee wavedashing. Was I wrong to do this? Should I be jailed for a hilarious 150 years? The executives were given a set of rules to play with, and they did like any human would, they made the best of their situation. Of course, I have no lack of empathy or sympathy for all the workers laid off... but everyone is just trying to make the best out of their situation. Why does the stock market crash? Because everyone is trying to cut their losses and sell. Why hasn't a consensus come on global warming? Because countries hope that if other countries contribute their part, it'll be enough and they won't have to. It's not greed. People naturally strive for the best they can do, however they might define it. I've seen some people right here in Canada living off of $20 a month for food, and they're really happy people. So we can't really judge. All you can really do is see how your situation is affecting you, how you can affect your own situation and then the rest is up to perspective. |
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| SilentSentinel | Jan 3 2010, 06:10 PM Post #24 |
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There's a difference between performing a small cheat on a video game and taking a hundred million dollar bonus while 20 hard workers get fired. |
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| + ImmunityBow | Jan 3 2010, 08:50 PM Post #25 |
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But is it really? That was just a small example, but take a look at everything in life. When you see students studying for a test in the hallway, how many times have you heard "don't worry about that, Mr. Soandso said that isn't on the test"? I doubt the teacher only wants what's on the test to be remembered and studied, but the game is marks, and students are prioritizing their studying to maximize marks, not learning. Or at an all-you-can-eat buffet, if I recall correctly some studies at Tufts University people tend to eat significantly more in that situation. Does anyone stop and think "Oh no, am I eating these people out of business? Where did this food come from? Were pesticides used in the corn, which will end up frying the brains of birds and fish who eat affected insects?" People are always trying to make the best out of their situation, whether it's taking advantage of themselves, others, anything. The analogy stands because we're exposed to it at every moment of our lives. Edited by ImmunityBow, Jan 3 2010, 08:52 PM.
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| Noah1111 | Jan 4 2010, 05:56 PM Post #26 |
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I think what IB says about the examples is perfectly true. Students tend to forget everything once testing is over and learning isn't necessary because all the students do really is memorize. It's called instant gratification. People want the here and now to be better and are not concerned on the future. Think about how amazingly beautiful the world was 50 years ago. Think about everything you've seen in your life. Do you want your children to not see the things we saw and loved? I do think that the way the world is going now it is almost impossible to change. However if power is shared equally amongst all then all is well and good. (Which will never happen) Quote Jimmy Hendrix: "When the power of love overcomes the love of power, only then will the world obtain peace." (I love that quote XD) |
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| SilentSentinel | Jan 4 2010, 06:02 PM Post #27 |
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We'll just have to wait and see then, won't we? |
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| DarthSenorQueso | Jan 17 2010, 08:16 PM Post #28 |
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But is waiting enough. That is our problem there. We wait too long, hoping things will change. No one can say otherwise. |
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| + ImmunityBow | Jan 17 2010, 08:52 PM Post #29 |
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But waiting for change is also subjective. You control your need for change, and you have the only control over how you take and make change in your world too. Or do you? I don't know, but it's definitely an interesting perspective to take. What are people waiting for? Chances are it's not the same thing down to the most profound level, though on the surface it may seem similar. But enough trying to sound deep. Waiting is in the end just another decision that you make, and ultimately will still affect how the world around you changes as well. |
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| assassinfred | Jan 27 2010, 12:12 AM Post #30 |
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Brave New World, my friend. The book about a so-called "utopia". Unfortunately, a utopia cannot ever be achieved, simply because everyone has to be happy for a utopia to be possible. This will never be achieved. It is impossible to please everybody. Everyone has different things that make them happy, and we cannot have everything that makes everyone happy at the same time. Therefore, a "perfect world" is impossible to achieve, without giving up everything that makes us human. This is basically what Brave New World is about. Now, on the world peace issue, it is not possible. Not realistically, anyway. Everyone who is a realist, whether they like it or not, should know that world peace cannot be achieved. Why? Simply because war is a part of human nature. Don't believe me? Look back at human history. Ever since the start of recorded history, war has been a major part of it. War is a part of human nature, it always was, and it always will be. I also believe that if, and when, we make contact with life on other planets, we will be the ones who shoot first, not the other way around like everyone likes to think. Also, like Winterbane said, the end of the world isn't meteors or a giant earthquake or anything like that. No, the end of the world will be us, humans. We will destroy ourselves. Easy as that. |
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