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This was typed on a diff. forum on January 7th, 2009
Well, today at school, we were having a normal any other day. Me and my friends were laughing and doing our work, and introducing the new girl in our class. That is, until an hour ago...

Our teachers took us into a 6th grade teacher's old room, which was cleaned out. Then, the principal came in. We all thought is was just a lockdown. ( a lockdown is when someone comes into your school and sells things with out going to the office first. That means the person is a stranger and could harm the children. Then the teachers bring us all to a certain room and lock the door untill the get the Okay Sign in their walkie-talkies.)

Anyways, when we thought it was a lockdown. You see, I have a best friend. A year and a month ago, he was diagonsed with Lupus. (More information about this tragic sickness here.) But, at first it wasn't that serious. He was doing fine, and made friends (ie. Me) and played sports as usual. Yet, the first month, his mother hesitated about going outside becuase he was first showing symptoms of Lupus at a soccer game.

Now, back to the 'lockdown'. Well, it was no lockdown... On the last week of christmas break, this friend of me caught the flu, only making his serious sickness worse. So, it all resulted this morning.

He died.

It was very sad; I can't believe I'm bringing myself to type about this. All of the kids in our class started bawling, and after a few minutes, we were sent to our rooms. Note that this was after lunchtime. Soon, the principal called his best friends to have a talk with them. With suprise, she called out my name, Eneko's name, and someone else's. We went to the prinipal's and discussed what happened. It was very sad. Then, the teachers started asking their students if they wanted to leave. It's very logical to let us leave early; we were all crying so we couldn't focus on work.

And guess what? I had a dental appointment today o.o'

This thread is just to ask some other members if one of their close friends have passed away, and how tragic it was. Of course, if you don't feel like posting about it, that is perfectly fine with me.
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Okay, Thank you. :]
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I had a few friends who died actually. Two died in separate car wrecks, one died of leukemia, and one hanged himself. Oh, and another was murdered by drug lords.

Both of the ones who died in car wrecks caused their own deaths though. One ran a stop sign because "he thought he could make it" and the other didn't wear her seat belt and died when the car lost control around a bend and rolled over. She was ejected from the vehicle and it fell on her and that's what killed her.

The one who "thought he could make it" ended up being listed as "giving his life to rid the world of a dangerous man", because another person who died in that wreck was wanted on several felony counts for violent crimes such as assault and robbery.
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Intresting... I think. I also have a friend with leukemia, but he survived. He still has to take blood tests, but he is doing fine.
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I have had a good number of friends die mostly in car wrecks. And I almost died beginning of last year.
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An acquaintance of mine died a few years ago in a car wreck on memorial day, and I never asked anyone how it happened. The next year, I found out that a friend of mine had been in the car with him, along with a few others. All of them were high. The friend who died was driving the car at obscene speeds, and the friend I talked to was in the back, repeatedly telling him to slow down. The driver was far too high to take this wisdom, and they went too fast around a turn. The car flipped and rolled several times. Only the one who was driving died. The one I talked to had a few fractured vertibrae, and had to take a football hiatus due to the injuries. I don't know what happened to all the others, but I do know they survived.

A few months later, another student was killed in an accident. While driving to school, nearby garbage truck was hit by a car, and that garbage truck tipped. his car was smashed entirely, no chance of survival. This kid was well-liked, and he was the son of a teacher.

A few months ago today, One kid in my school that everybody knew and liked died in a car wreck. I don't know how it happened, and I don't want to ask because everybody still gets sad or angry at the sound of his name. One of the most terrible parts of this is that his sister was in the car too. She survived the crash, but was hospitalized in critical condition. She was later declared stable. She died that afternoon. Now their parents have no children, and the school is missing two key members. The boy was even getting ready to get a skateboarding contract, and might even have a new design of Vans made in his honor.

All of this gets me thinking: these people were the popular, outgoing types that everybody in the school knows. What if I died? I'm not the guy who is known by everyone or knows everyone. These people go out with a bang, whereas I would hardly be noticed. Not sure what significance this little bit has, but it's not worth erasing.
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An acquaintance of mine died a few years ago in a car wreck on memorial day, and I never asked anyone how it happened. The next year, I found out that a friend of mine had been in the car with him, along with a few others. All of them were high. The friend who died was driving the car at obscene speeds, and the friend I talked to was in the back, repeatedly telling him to slow down. The driver was far too high to take this wisdom, and they went too fast around a turn. The car flipped and rolled several times. Only the one who was driving died. The one I talked to had a few fractured vertibrae, and had to take a football hiatus due to the injuries. I don't know what happened to all the others, but I do know they survived.

A few months later, another student was killed in an accident. While driving to school, nearby garbage truck was hit by a car, and that garbage truck tipped. his car was smashed entirely, no chance of survival. This kid was well-liked, and he was the son of a teacher.

A few months ago today, One kid in my school that everybody knew and liked died in a car wreck. I don't know how it happened, and I don't want to ask because everybody still gets sad or angry at the sound of his name. One of the most terrible parts of this is that his sister was in the car too. She survived the crash, but was hospitalized in critical condition. She was later declared stable. She died that afternoon. Now their parents have no children, and the school is missing two key members. The boy was even getting ready to get a skateboarding contract, and might even have a new design of Vans made in his honor.

All of this gets me thinking: these people were the popular, outgoing types that everybody in the school knows. What if I died? I'm not the guy who is known by everyone or knows everyone. These people go out with a bang, whereas I would hardly be noticed. Not sure what significance this little bit has, but it's not worth erasing.
Thats so true, in my freshman year a cheerleader died guess what she got a schoarship named after her but none of my friends who died in wrecks did. It was biased and very disrespectful.
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An acquaintance of mine died a few years ago in a car wreck on memorial day, and I never asked anyone how it happened. The next year, I found out that a friend of mine had been in the car with him, along with a few others. All of them were high. The friend who died was driving the car at obscene speeds, and the friend I talked to was in the back, repeatedly telling him to slow down. The driver was far too high to take this wisdom, and they went too fast around a turn. The car flipped and rolled several times. Only the one who was driving died. The one I talked to had a few fractured vertibrae, and had to take a football hiatus due to the injuries. I don't know what happened to all the others, but I do know they survived.

A few months later, another student was killed in an accident. While driving to school, nearby garbage truck was hit by a car, and that garbage truck tipped. his car was smashed entirely, no chance of survival. This kid was well-liked, and he was the son of a teacher.

A few months ago today, One kid in my school that everybody knew and liked died in a car wreck. I don't know how it happened, and I don't want to ask because everybody still gets sad or angry at the sound of his name. One of the most terrible parts of this is that his sister was in the car too. She survived the crash, but was hospitalized in critical condition. She was later declared stable. She died that afternoon. Now their parents have no children, and the school is missing two key members. The boy was even getting ready to get a skateboarding contract, and might even have a new design of Vans made in his honor.

All of this gets me thinking: these people were the popular, outgoing types that everybody in the school knows. What if I died? I'm not the guy who is known by everyone or knows everyone. These people go out with a bang, whereas I would hardly be noticed. Not sure what significance this little bit has, but it's not worth erasing.
QFT. :/
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I had a friend when I was in 2nd grade and she was in 8th grade, when I moved to town I lost contact. Two years later, she died in a car crash. She was the only one who died. Her parents both survived. She was in the back they were both in the front and they were rear ended. I believe she died from her neck snapping. It was very sad.

A girl at my new school died when I first came to town in a car crash. She was drunk and so was her boyfriend who was driving. She got a memorial scholarship in her memory. However, about a year ago a house burned down on the north side of my town as result of a wiring problem. Two young men and one 17 year old girl were living there. The 17 year old had a daughter she had just given birth to. She and the father of the baby both died saving it from the fire. They are not ever mentioned by the anyone when the idea of memorial scholarships pops up.

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Wow Czar, sounds like you've been through a lot.
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Eh, the only thing to remember in these kinds of situations is that it happens to everyone. You must also keep in mind that things get better after getting worse. I understand what you are saying Sin'sMortalCoil. I don't think anyone would really care if I died. I'm not popular by any means. I can think of about 10 people who would really miss me. Tragic things happen all the time. This is a good topic to converse over.
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Of course it happens to everyone, but everyone also thinks, "Oh, too bad for that person." Acting like it will never happen to someone close. When it does, they say, "Why her/him?"
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Well really are you guys blaming yourselves or society for apparently not being memorable? I mean you cant just revert to a shell, and blame the universe for all of this bias nature. Shouldn't you have some responsibility if you feel people wouldn't miss your death.

Sorry I'm just trying to play devil's advocate. Because none of you seem to be taking any of the blame yourselves.
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Since when was the goal of life to be remembered by society after death. Many people have died who helped advance human life are recognized by almost no one since their contribution was not noteworthy, but small. It's also ironic that people who have committed huge crimes, like Hitler, will forever be remembered throughout history.

Now back to the original topic. Earlier in the school year, two kids from my high school died in a car crash. TBH, I wasn't affected much since I hardly knew one and had never met the other. However, I was angry that we basically had a day of recognition the following monday in respect to their deaths. My anger may seem wrong, but this is why. Those two, one a passenger, were racing down a busy street at about 9P.M. on a Friday at about 1 P.M.. If that isn't enough, they were skipping school, which doesn't end until 2:25 P.M., and they managed to take away the life of a 70+ year old lady who was in the opposite lane. Yet, my school did not at all acknowledge her death which is what mainly pissed me off since those two basically killed her.
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I will take the blame. I need to take the initiative. The thing is, even if we are remembered, will we be in a hundred years, or a thousand? Probably not. My point being that I believe we should either acknowledge all those in the crash or none at all. I don't care that the girl in my school died. The reason, she was stupid enough to jump in a car with a stupid drunk asshole and run into a telephone pole. It is probably better off they died that way instead of taking somebody out with them. As for my friend, it wasn't her fault in the crash but maybe it wasn't the other driver's or the parents' fault either. If society will give a dead drunk a memorial scholarship why the hell won't they give someone who risked their life for a child one? Because her parents aren't wealthy or notable enough? Sometimes, society is disgusting.
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You have a point, Czar.
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Whenever I see a person's name becuase they died, I feel pained. I feel equally for everyone like that. A nice peacefuk death I'll go nice for them, but stupidity makes me feel sad. I would feel really bad if anyone here died in face I have a bit of a parinoia of it.
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Well, we are all going to die sometime...but yeah I know what you mean. I think about that at school to. There are 114 kids in my Sophomore class and sometimes when we go to assemblies and I see them all, I think, "What are the true odds that we will all survive? Who here will die?" It is a very somber thought. It is also a very likely thing that a few of us will die, but we aren't told that because it may scare a few of us. There is really nothing to do.
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Well, we are all going to die sometime...but yeah I know what you mean. I think about that at school to. There are 114 kids in my Sophomore class and sometimes when we go to assemblies and I see them all, I think, "What are the true odds that we will all survive? Who here will die?" It is a very somber thought. It is also a very likely thing that a few of us will die, but we aren't told that because it may scare a few of us. There is really nothing to do.
This is a very morbid way to think.

In the case of the 17 year old girl who died saving her baby, did you end up fighting strongly for her case when the idea of a memorial award came up? Did you go around the school, telling people about it, making a petition, asking the school staff about it?

Instead of "Who here will die?", why not "Should I become a doctor, a social worker, someone who can make sure that every one of these 114 kids, or other kids in other communities, can become someone who can make a meaningful contribution?"

I know I haven't been through nearly as much as you have, but I'd go as far as to say that this cynicism displayed in your posts is downright wrong. Sure, optimism isn't always the best path to take, but when looking towards the future and everything you can accomplish, you really do need to shoot. Not so you will be remembered. Not because of anything like that. Just because it's right, arbitrarily so and definitely necessary.

Easier said than done, of course, but I'm aiming to do a little good to the world and I expect about just as much from everyone.
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Hm... death was always something I never really thought about. And yes, the memorials do upset me as well. There was one girl at my school who died in a car crash - a drunk driver hit her as she was crossing the sidewalk and killed her instantly. Once again - she was very popular and well liked by the in-crowd. At the memorial - which we were all forced to go to at the school - she was heralded as being "kind to everyone", "sympathetic", and a variety of other things that were true only when applied to the in-crowd. For the gamers, the nerds (which I was definitely in) she was downright rude and essentially a bitch, mocked those who weren't in her social crowd, and basically thought herself and her friends in that crowd above all other people in the school. It just upset me that I was forced to attend a school-based memorial service to a girl that in all honesty I believed was two-faced and had never been kind to me or any of my friends in the entire time we had known her - and in fact, had been the opposite.

I know that despite my eventual goal (to teach high-school history) - chances are, I won't be remembered. But that doesn't matter to me. I have a girlfriend who loves me very much, and when it comes down to it, her opinion of me is all that matters, besides my opinion of myself. I know I have someone who loves me who wishes me to be here, and that's enough to keep me going despite the knowledge that my life will most likely be insignificant to humanity as a whole (I might possibly eventually develop a group of students who miss having me around, but that's only a fraction.)

The point is - you have to be satisfied with your own life, not do things for the sake of being remembered. What purpose does it serve to be remembered if, say, there is no afterlife? (I'm an atheist, so I am certainly a proponent of this prospect.) If death really is the 100% end of the line, why bother with remembrance if you won't be around to hear about it anyway, if you are gone in every way? What's important to me isn't remembrance after death - it's making the most out of my life despite the futility of effort.
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